What’s with all the 2011 World Scout Jamboree border colors?

 

This summer I had the pleasure of attending the World Scout Jamboree in Sweden. Each person received two Jamboree badges that had a light grey border. Within a week after the close of the Jamboree, a special orange border “King’s badge” showed up on eBay.

 

 

 

It was sold on 8/14/11 by weezethree of Asheville, NC for $449.00. Another sold a week later from a different seller in Massachusetts for $356.00 and a third was sold from a seller in Sweden in the $700 range if I remember correctly. Other orange border King’s badges have been sold by:

 

redtp326, Orlando, FL, $787.76, 9/6/11
airhardrock, Ladysmith, VA, $725, 9/12/11
thelonelyhighway, VA, $413.88, 10/13/11

 

These patches were supposedly given out by the King of Sweden to Scouts that he met when he visited the Jamboree site. I have talked to my Swedish contacts on the Jamboree Planning Team, and they have asked around, but nobody seems to know anything about those patches. I inquired on Patch-L and two people told me they met people who received these patches from the King, but neither actually saw the patch or could provide a scan. By a stroke of fortune, one of the Scouts in my council’s contingent actually got to meet the King. He was given an iPad, but no patch.

 

At the same time the orange border patches started to appear, an American seller offered a brown border Jamboree badge. Unfortunately I didn’t track eBay as closely as Jason does because I didn’t save the seller or price information, but several were offered by different sellers from the US.

 

By late August, the World Jamboree Collector Society on Facebook was declaring both of these patches fake. In addition to minor differences on the front, the original badge has a black back whereas the orange and brown border patches have white backs.

 

Nevertheless, these orange border King’s badges continue to appear and sell at quite handsome prices.

 

In September, special gold (yellow) border Jamboree badges appeared. According to the description:

This badge was only given out to people who worked at the jamboree site for a long time! This makes this badge very rare as it was only given out to a limited number of people! The Badge looks almost the same as the official particiant badge but with a gold string attached to a gold ring, and also the border of the badge is in gold instead of silver.

Two of these have been sold so far from a seller in Sweden.

 

xxxxuxxxx, Linköping, Östergötland, Sweden, $676.66, 9/8/11
xxxxuxxxx, Linköping, Östergötland, Sweden, $362.00, 9/16/11

 

Not to be left out, an American version has appeared with all the hallmarks of the orange border patch. It also doesn’t have the grommet of the Swedish version.

 

 

 

troll145, USA, $909.99, 10/5/11

 

Nine hundred dollars?! Is international collecting the Wild, Wild West with no rules but caveat emptor? If anybody has any solid info on any of these badges, I’d love to hear it!

 

 

Comments

Dave this is the most professional looking post I’ve ever seen on this site. AND on top of that you may have blown the lid on an International scandal. I’m reposting this everywhere today! I need to hire you to put some more content on my sites! lol

By jason on October 22nd, 2011 at 4:08 pm

In a related topic, I was a participant in the Baden-Powell Fellows event at the recent World Jamboree. The turquoise border neckerchiefs are definitely authentic. However, when they passed out those neckerchiefs at the reception, they were from stacks of folded neckerchiefs with no packaging. It would be interesting to learn the source of the neckerchiefs on ebay with “original packaging.”

By Bruce on October 24th, 2011 at 5:39 pm

Hello

I was just scanning the internet for some nice ideas for the swiss scout badge for the upcoming roverway 2012 in finland. By clicking on the WSJ 2011 badge with the orange boarder, I dropped in in this forum.

Why did I click on this special badge? I have one and didn’t knew for sure what it’s all about. So why do I have one, you may ask. I was as IST in the WSJ in Sweden. By chance a friend and I met Marie Reinicke (one of the three camp chiefs). We chatted a bit and we saw, that she was holdinig a pile of the camp badgeds but with orange boarder. The same orange color as the neckers of the camp chiefs had. When we asked, what’s all about with these badges. We got no answer – but a badge and a big smile from Marie :-). Later on I heard, that every Scout staying / helping more than 5 weeks at the Jamboree-site got one of those special badges. But this isn’t just abit more than a roumor.

So what I can say: The badges with the orange borders are real and official WSJ-badges. For my part I think it’s digusting to sell scout-badges. Swaping is the fair but selling is so not scouting.

Your fellow Scout
Peter v/o Ramzy

be prepared – allzeit bereit!

By Ramzy on November 28th, 2011 at 6:36 pm

Thank you for this information! I met Marie too but didn’t see her with these badges. Yours looks more like the yellow (gold) border version than the dark orange one, but it does seem to match the neckerchief. I heard a rumor at the time that Göran Hägerdal, another camp chief, also had these but I’ve not been able to confirm that.

By ISCA87L on November 29th, 2011 at 6:29 am

The color of the boarder of my badge I scanned yesterday is more orange than golden. If you like I can try to make a photo of it (and hope that the computer will show the color more trueful). But as you say: the color matches the boarder of the neckers from the campchiefs.

By Ramzy on November 29th, 2011 at 3:32 pm

This reply is very late but the brown ones where given out to builders. I have the one without the goldthing since i worked for two weeks before the camp.

Others that worked for a longer time might have gotten another, since i wasnt there i wouldnt know.

By Elin on November 17th, 2013 at 8:28 am

I’m really late with this (seeing that it is now already 2017), but I got curious again about my orange patch and found this post.

Here is a small story. I was at the USA base where the Japanese world scout leader was visiting. I wanted to give him a patch from the USA as a gift. People kept asking me to hold a camera and take a picture of him with them. He ended up quickly leaving. I felt sad and waited around wondering what to do. I then saw one of the orange neckerchief guys talking to some people. I thought he was the king of Sweden (I was 18 at the time, how was I supposed to know what the king really looked like). I went over and asked him if I can give him a patch from the USA. I give him an old USA northeast region patch. He then pulls out about 4 or 5 orange bordered patches and gives me one. He said that these were the (committee or whoever plans the overall jamboree) higher level staff patches. He said orange was his favorite color which makes me think that the leader committee made the patches on purpose. He only had about 10 of them. The King maybe had about 20 while the other 2 people (the guy and the girl (Marie?) had 10 each as well. It sounds like there were only 50 made. I later found out that his name was Goran (the wider looking of the three leaders). I took the patch home and framed it as a memory. That is my story.

Also there is another miscolored patch. Odd colored border which was either blue or something. One guy got both of them while standing in line when the patches were being given while entering the jamboree and sold one on EBay. My scoutmaster has a picture of it at his house from right after the jamboree in 2011.

(also the picture above looks right, but the camera probably makes the orange look lighter.)

By Kevin Spencer on May 24th, 2017 at 1:45 am

I worked in Gorans personal staff during the jamboree and Kevin is on the right track. Goran was one of three chiefs of the camp they and the King had the orange border. The patch was made in quite a big numberI would say at least 100 but there is not that many in circulation most of them was still in its box when cleaned out the HQ. I think I pact them for transport to the Swedish scout HQ so they may still be there.

By Mats Karlsson on September 28th, 2017 at 2:52 pm

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