Eswau’s Unofficial Dixie Neckerchiefs

Finally the truth has been told on oaimages.com blog by no other than Jimmy Arthurs. Six neckerchiefs all fake in my opinion due to them being private issued.

 

ZN2? R M/C BLK patterned “Batman” cloth; issued for 2007 Dixie Fellowship
ZN3? R M/C BLU patterned “Batman” cloth; issued for 2007 Dixie Fellowship
ZN4? R BLU DBL patterned “Batman” cloth; issued for 2007 Dixie Fellowship
ZN5? R M/C RED patterned “Batman” cloth; issued for 2007 Dixie Fellowship
ZN6? R M/C YEL patterned “Batman” cloth; issued for 2007 Dixie Fellowship
ZN7? R M/C YEL patterned “Batman” cloth; issued for 2007 Dixie Fellowship

 

They also had a cat in the hat one the other year at Dixie Fellowship as well because i actually picked up one of them and was told they made like 25 of them. My concern is why not just make them as a fundraiser for the lodge if you are going to go through the trouble and make them anyway??!!

 

Just out of curiousity I just went on oaimages Eswau page and there are now 13 previousily unlisted neckerchiefs on the site!!!

 

Wow !! where did all these hidden issues come from?? I see Mr. Arthurs sent in some of the scans not sure if he sent them all as some are not labeled by the scans donor.

 

 

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I would not even consider these lodge issues, fake or not. It appears to me that they are simply pieces of Batman cloth cut into squares, or they might be Batman bandanas. I did not see anything identifying them as being from Eswau. If the Blue Book editors and/or Pannell (disclaimer: I want to thank John for all he does or the hobby and his management of oaimages) are going to label everything that comes from a lodge as being an issue, then I have a rare item from Muscogee that I won in a lodge patch auction years ago. It is a Beanie Baby fox that was used as somewhat of a mascot for part of the fellowship, so should it be considered as an event item, maybe it could be listed as a 221 eBBinsane. I think some things are going to far, it’s fine if the lodge used these as part of their spirit theme during the weekend, but to consider them issues? I guess then I should start keeping all the brown paper bags I receive my Santee fellowship patches in as they will start to be listed as 116 ePBludacris. That’s my two cents worth, but if I had received that change at a lodge event maybe I should scan the pennies and send them into oaimages so they can be listed as some sort of lodge issue.

By collectorofpatches on December 2nd, 2007 at 4:50 am

THANKS COLLECTOROFPATCHES FOR YOUR INSIGHT ON THIS AS WELL. I DONT CONSIDER THEM COLLECTIBLE NOR OFFICIAL LODGE ISSUE. IT IS MEMBERS OF A LODGE PRODUCING ITEMS SIMILAR TO THE SPIRIT RAGS THAT SKYUKA MAKES MOST YEARS THAT ARE NOT EVEN LISTED IN THE BLUE BOOK! HOWEVER I WOULD CLASSIFY SKYUKA’S AS LEGIT ISSUES DUE TO THEM ACTUALLING BEING PRODUCED BY SKYUKA AND MOREOVER ACTUALLY BEING SEEN AT THE DIXIE FELLOWSHIP!!

MANY LODGES ARE GOING TOO FAR WITH TURNING OUT LIMITED ISSUES THAT ARE NOT EVEN AVAILABLE TO ALL MEMBERS OF THE LODGE NOR BEING VOTED ON BY THEIR LODGES EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE.

IT WAS MY OPINION AS WELL THAT THEY SHOULDN’T EVEN BE MENTIONED IN THE BLUE BOOK TO GIVE THEM ANY CREDITWORTHINESS AT ALL.

By mopar73mopar on December 2nd, 2007 at 5:48 am

I’m glad the truth came out but it REEEAAALLLLYYY doesn’t surprise me. I quit collecting that odd ball stuff from Eswau several years ago. Every Dixie they would come out with some home made something-or-other and expect you to ante up to the table and trade your good stuff for. Whether it was a button, a pvc pipe neckerchief slide, or a silk screened batman rag I just quit. Really in the end who is your collection for? I’ve realized that there is never going to be a Jason Spangler museum of OA built on 5 acres of land across from beautiful Camp Coker. So really this collecting thing is just my fun hobby that hopefully will provide a lifetime of keeping me busy. Its fun to track down stuff and keep up your collection. Its even more fun to go to a Scouting event or TOR and talk and deal with old friends. So I’ve matured enough in my collecting to realize that I’m the sole person who decides what has to go into my collection. If somebody makes a fake Dixie N/C (ie. Bobwhite cammo) then even if it is on oaimages or in the blue book I just say “Sorry! Not interested!”

So I don’t really have an opinion as to whether John lists it on his site. I think we all need to know about the fake crap so that years down the line we don’t get fooled into thinking that some of these things were official. The problem is not enough people have my attitude and refuse to bid on them or trade for them when they have the chance. But to each his own and if you want to trade your good stuff for some dumb a _ _ silk screened rag with eight color variations that somebody had made up then go knock yourself out buddy! For me I’ll keep flip through my Eswau notebook one of these days, look at the tough (real) stuff that I’ve got and be proud that I assembled that collection. Heck I might even put it in a frame and take it to an event to display. But I won’t regret not having the pvc pipe n/c slide, Wal-mart felt silk screened NOAC flaps, and other miscelleanous crap that these guys have dreamed up.:D

By jason on December 4th, 2007 at 2:15 am

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