New BSA Policy on Official Emblems


I’m sure somebody has written about this on Patch-L and can pull up a direct quote from some national memorandum. But if not or if you haven’t heard this let me throw it out there.


At my recent Spring Fellowship we once again did not have our new batch of vigil flaps. This time the explanation given was really new to me. I suppose it to be true and if so there is a big implication for the hobby. My lodge adviser stated that National BSA now requires patch manufacturers to pay a sort of license fee and have an authorized seal on the backing of BSA patches. Our flaps are ordered from Krelman and the Scout Exec would not authorize a purchase order for krelman because at the time they had not been cleared or added to the list of authorized manufacturers. For example our fellowship patches were ordered from the AB emblem company and contained the seal on the plastic backing.


Has anybody else heard this? Is Krelman (who I assume does A LOT of business with councils and lodges) really on a black list?


Does this mean that lodges and councils will have to do reorders from different companies and in effect create a flood of new issues by virtue of changing companies and the inevitable thread color variations and stitching differences?




Jason, I believe Krelman is an authorized manufacturer. You might check with them. National was trying to enforce copyright laws. Thus eliminating offshore fakes. And maybe make a buck off the patch manufacturers.;)

By OkiePatchTrader on April 21st, 2007 at 1:55 am

I don’t think that the enforcement of copyrights will cease the production of offshore fakes. I think that National is simply trying to earn and extra buck. After all, there is plenty of copyright enforcement in the collegiate licensing arena, yet there are plenty of fake or bootleg college t-shirts, hats, sweatshirts, etc. The same could be said for watches and purses that are sold in the parks and on the sidewalks of New York City.

By collectorofpatches on April 23rd, 2007 at 3:29 am

Hello all.
I have been in touch with our patch manufacturer and they have finished the BSA registration process. They don’t believe it will stop the asian fakes and it is a revenue stream for national. A very LARGE stream.
The official list even includes a cake maker. Visit their web site @ to view their wares and see that they are BSA trademark compliant.
Scouting Fossil

By rlp3219 on April 23rd, 2007 at 6:15 pm

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